Dont use __init__

[rafaqz]

Given recent precompilation concerns it would be better not to use and recommend using __init__ here.

Instead pynew() could have a runtime value check, and do the import automatically on the first call?

We could pass it a string for the module name, or a closure.

[cjdoris]

Nice idea.

Would be good to investigate if adding such a check has any performance penalty, since it will be done for every python operation.

[cjdoris]

Of course if any package does anything with PythonCall (even indirectly) in its __init__ then the effect is undone. But we can at least recommend against it.

[rafaqz]

Was this actually implemented?

[cjdoris]

No, I guess I hit the Close button by mistake!

[pedromxavier]

@cjdoris is there any benchmark suite of yours? I'd like to test a few a ideas for such lazy-loading mechanism.

[cjdoris]

Just https://github.com/cjdoris/PythonCall.jl/blob/main/BENCHMARKS.md which may be out of date. Might be nice to formalise them.

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This issue has been closed because it has been stale for 7 days. You can re-open it if it is still relevant.

[LilithHafner]

IMO this is still relevant, it should be re-opened and added to a milestone so that it is not automatically re-closed as stale.

[rafaqz]

Auto closing issues after 30 days doesnt really make sense, Im not going to keep pinging all my githib issues

[cjdoris]

Don't worry, pinging every 30 days is not the intention - it's to let actual stale issues die and prompt something to happen with inactive issues, even if the something is simply to add a label that prevents it from being marked stale again, which I have just done.

That said, this was marked stale because of inactivity. I'm unlikely to work on this myself so if you want anything to happen you need to make it happen.

[rafaqz]

Marking stale due to inactivity is a questionable practice. Issues that are not fixed don't just go away.

There is no chance I will work on this, it was basically a "heads up" issue for future design.

[cjdoris]

Like I said, issues which are actual issues I can label so they stick around, like I did with this one.

The bot is to close the issues that aren't actually issues - such as because it actually got resolved or the user didn't provide a way to reproduce the issue.

[rafaqz]

Issues can be closed from PRs using e.g. closes #x . Or manually if they dont matter.

But auto closing will end up with discussions like this - there is a reason almost no other packages do it. But your call of course.