doc: add CTC meeting minutes 2016-07-20

PR-URL: #7970
Reviewed-By: Michael Dawson <[email protected]>
Reviewed-By: James M Snell <[email protected]>

Author: joshgav

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+# Node Foundation CTC Meeting 2016-07-20
+
+## Links
+
+* **Audio Recording**: TBP
+* **GitHub Issue**: https://github.com/nodejs/node/issues/7809
+* **Minutes Google Doc**: <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Gr1XX-DuzgGXON5uAzrZHjWwXoQ4AIJEAJ2DK5jNmp4>
+* _Previous Minutes Google Doc: <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fP9_ZNcPoFh2VWCgUFu9-rDiDcMP88vhCC_oX6Aj528>_
+
+## Present
+
+* Anna Henningsen @addaleax (observer)
+* Ben Noordhuis @bnoordhuis (CTC)
+* Сковорода Никита Андреевич @ChALkeR (CTC)
+* Colin Ihrig @cjihrig (CTC)
+* Evan Lucas @evanlucas (CTC)
+* Jeremiah Senkpiel @Fishrock123 (CTC)
+* Josh Gavant @joshgav (observer/Microsoft)
+* Michael Dawson @mhdawson (CTC)
+* Julien Gilli @misterdjules (CTC)
+* Brian White @mscdex (CTC)
+* Ali Ijaz Sheikh @ofrobots (CTC)
+* Alexis Campailla @orangemocha (CTC)
+* Rod Vagg @rvagg (CTC)
+* Seth Thompson @s3ththompson (observer/Google)
+* Shigeki Ohtsu @shigeki (CTC)
+* Steven R Loomis @srl295 (observer/IBM/ICU)
+* Myles Borins @TheAlphaNerd (observer)
+* Trevor Norris @trevnorris (CTC)
+* Rich Trott @Trott (CTC)
+
+
+## Standup
+
+* Anna Henningsen @addaleax (observer)
+  * Issues & PRs
+  * looking into porting JS-based realpath to C
+* Ben Noordhuis @bnoordhuis (CTC)
+  * The usual (PR review and comment)
+  * Updating code base to do less manual memory management. PR coming soon.
+* Сковорода Никита Андреевич @ChALkeR (CTC)
+  * Some initial work on docs linting.
+  * Some comments on issues and PRs.
+* Colin Ihrig @cjihrig (CTC)
+  * Reviewed issues and PRs
+  * Opened PRs
+* Evan Lucas @evanlucas (CTC)
+  * working on v6.3.1 release
+  * working on repl bugfix
+* Jeremiah Senkpiel @Fishrock123 (CTC)
+  * Did some timers review for https://github.com/nodejs/node/commit/5aac4c42da104c30d8f701f1042d61c2f06b7e6c
+  * Clearing out some other old stuff I’ve assigned myself to
+* Josh Gavant @joshgav (observer/Microsoft)
+  * Internal Microsoft work.
+* Michael Dawson @mhdawson (CTC)
+  * Misc issues with PPC machines, added new PPC
+    machines from newer openstack
+  * Working with Ian/Sampson on ABI stable abi, status
+    update at API WG meeting
+  * Working with Richard/Howard on post-mortem activities,
+    post-mortem WG meeting this week.
+  * Misc reviews/lands
+  * Reading/keeping up/commenting on issues
+  * Getting ready for Node Summit talk.
+* Julien Gilli @misterdjules (CTC)
+  * Looking forward to getting more involved again
+  * Investigating timers bug. Looking for someone to mentor on it
+  * Reviewing and commenting on pull requests
+* Brian White @mscdex (CTC)
+  * Diving deep into reworking API docs
+  * Reviewing PRs, commenting on issues
+* Ali Ijaz Sheikh @ofrobots (CTC)
+  * shepherding some V8 backports, v8_inspector license issue and roll
+* Alexis Campailla @orangemocha (CTC)
+  * Nothing to report.
+* Rod Vagg @rvagg (CTC)
+  * Usual administrative stuff, some build maintenance
+* Seth Thompson @s3ththompson (observer/Google)
+  * Setting priorities for the next quarter.
+  * Team is continuing work on v8_inspector.
+  * Migrating v8_inspector into V8 itself.
+* Shigeki Ohtsu @shigeki (CTC)
+  * Nothing special. Working internal jobs.
+* Steven R Loomis @srl295 (observer/IBM/ICU)
+  * Nodesummit prep…
+* Myles Borins @TheAlphaNerd (observer)
+  * v4.5.0-rc.2 released
+  * Email sent to npm team
+* Trevor Norris @trevnorris (CTC)
+  * realpath fix
+* Rich Trott @Trott (CTC)
+  * CTC governance doc updates
+  * onboarded @andrasq, will set up something with @princejwesley next, open to other nominations for after that
+  * eliminating more flaky tests (IT NEVER ENDS!!!!11!!!)
+
+
+## Agenda
+
+Extracted from **ctc-agenda** labelled issues and pull requests from the **nodejs org** prior to the meeting.
+
+### nodejs/node
+
+* [meta] realpath issues in v6 [#7726](https://github.com/nodejs/node/issues/7726)
+* v4.5.0 proposal [#7688](https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/7688)
+* http: don't inherit from Object.prototype [#6102](https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/6102)
+
+### nodejs/node-eps
+
+* proposal: WHATWG URL standard implementation [#28](https://github.com/nodejs/node-eps/pull/28)
+
+## Previous Meeting
+
+* build: drop support for VS 2013 in v7 [#7484](https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/7484)
+
+* Node 6 fs.realpath behavior changes [#7175](https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/7175)
+
+* http: don't inherit from Object.prototype [#6102](https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/6102)
+
+* v4.5.0 proposal [#7688](https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/7688)
+
+* proposal: WHATWG URL standard implementation [#28](https://github.com/nodejs/node-eps/pull/28)
+
+## Minutes
+
+### [meta] realpath issues in v6 [#7726](https://github.com/nodejs/node/issues/7726)
+
+@rvagg: some discussion of reversion to v5 behavior, i.e. JS implementation rather than libuv implementation.
+
+@trevnorris: looks like everybody’s leaning towards a full revert (or at least a partial revert). I don’t like this plan but will go along.
+
+@addaleax: Unfortunate to have to do full revert for *nix systems. But having alternate impl for Windows increases maintenance costs.
+
+As part of the new implementation, the `cache` parameter was removed from the method. It was created to improve perf for the JS impl but is considered less necessary since the native impl performs better anyway.
+
+Should we reinstate the `cache` parameter as part of the revert? Would this be a semver-major again? Does caching in the JS impl provide a significant perf benefit?
+
+@addaleax: Benchmarking fs perf will show how much benefit the caching capability in libuv provides.
+
+@mhdawson: we run two benchmarks nightly: one with caching and one without.
+
+@orangemocha: It seems okay to have two impl’s, one for Windows and one for *nix, increased maintenance surface isn’t a concern, libuv manages libuv impl.
+
+@rvagg: As we move v6 to LTS it would be best to have a known-good implementation. So would prefer a full revert, then fix libuv impl independently, then re-integrate.
+
+@thealphanerd: Could we provide both interfaces? Revert the primary one to original behavior and add a second one with libuv behavior?
+
+@rvagg: Still doesn’t address breaking change in Windows.
+
+@fishrock123: also in favor of reverting. This has been going on for a long time, best to revert and then fix.
+
+@orangemocha: should not compromise correctness for performance.
+
+@trevnorris: caching could be separated from fs API. For example, it could be part of `module` module.
+
+@rvagg: This is why I’m in favor of a full reversion. These other discussions may continue for a month and we need to correct problem now.
+
+@thealphanerd: do we have a list of the original bugs the libuv patch addressed?
+
+@saghul has a list.
+
+@rvagg: back to github for now.
+
+**Next steps**: continue discussion in GH.
+
+### v4.5.0 proposal [#7688](https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/7688)
+
+@thealphanerd is raising visibility for tests and feedback.
+
+@misterdjules may have some testers.
+
+### http: don't inherit from Object.prototype [#6102](https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/6102)
+
+@rvagg: Need choices to vote on.
+
+@ofrobots: Wants to explore more options including `map` so wait for vote. If the goal is to go to a map why don’t we do that now?
+
+@Fishrock123: Because community has taken dependencies on it being an object.
+
+@ofrobots: headers end up with “megamorphic IC’s” so wants to research further.
+
+@Fishrock123: We are fixing this because header names like `__proto__` conflict with default object properties.
+
+We should really just make an API for headers.
+
+@rvagg: We’ll come back to this next week. Prepare wording for vote if ready.
+
+**Next steps**: List available options and conduct vote next week.
+
+
+## Q/A on public fora
+
+None.
+
+## Upcoming Meetings
+
+* CTC: 2016-07-27
+* TSC: 2016-07-28
+* Build: 2016-08-07
+* LTS: 2016-07-25
+* Diagnostics: 2016-08-03
+* Post-Mortem: August
+* API: August